Comments on: Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola and George Barna

By: Joe Miller

Joe Miller — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 05:39:37 +0000

Interesting perspective considering your background. I will have to read more of your stuff. Meantime, if you are interested, I am posting a 5 part interview with both George Barna and Frank Viola. Please feel free to pass the word and share your thoughts.

By: Pagan Christianity?? (part 1) « Revolution 115

Pagan Christianity?? (part 1) « Revolution 115 — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:16:52 +0000

[...] ers: Read Is the Pastorate Pagan? from Out of Ur (my favorite blog). Read Dan Wilt’s thoughts on the book. Josh Brown has some m [...]

By: Joe Miller

Joe Miller — Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:41:28 +0000

u are welcome. FYI, Joe also has some new resources coming out this year so keep an eye out for more great stuff on the way.

By: Stephen Hill

Stephen Hill — Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:19:28 +0000

the title ‘pagan’ is slightly misleading. I think no one should make comments about something they have not read. A lot of these comments are pre-judging without actually having read the book. This is astounding. Read it first and then comment!!

By: Administrator

Administrator — Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:56:21 +0000

Joe,

Looks like an excellent piece of work. Thanks for directing us to it. It’s now on my wish list at Amazon.

By: Joe Miller

Joe Miller — Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:36:17 +0000

Hi, an excellent alternative to Viola's book is "The Ancient Church As Family" by Dr. Joe Hellerman. His work is well researched and addresses many of the "pagan" influences on our faith. Dr. Hellerman's contribution is a blend of good history AND respectful discourse.

By: tina brown

tina brown — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:00:48 +0000

apple peeler … book … apple peeler … book … ha, ha, ha …

By: ROb

ROb — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 02:48:42 +0000

two cents..
i read the self-published edition of this book a while ago.. (as oppossed to the new Tyndale edition w/ barna..

although i resonate with some of violas challenges with modern church practice, i have to say i found myself reacting negatively to the prevailing dogmatic treatment thru out…cover to cover…likely w/tyndale and barna on board, this edition will be softened a bit…hopefully so you wont feel complicit w/ the pagan agenda of the underworld if you just happen to attend your “church” this sunday..

By: Administrator

Administrator — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:50:32 +0000

Thanks for pointing us that direction, though, Matt. Our class on worship history today begged these questions of how Christian practice emerges within a zeitgeist, and finds itself both more beautiful and more bewildered in the process.

I’m just thrilled that after 2000 years the Church is asking these kinds of questions, and has the cultural space in which to ask them.

What a privilege to be in an age where millenia are behind us to think upon. What a challenge to think well about these things, and to do the right things for the right reasons.

What a privilege to live in free lands where thinking can occur about such pivotal questions without fear of recrimination.

By: mattwiebe

mattwiebe — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 01:38:25 +0000

Hmm, the Bob Hyatt link was wonky, apparently...